Say It Aint So!!!!

Well men, in talking with some of the Masters and SIRS it seems the age thing is in full effect. Many Masters and Sirs are feeling the age discrimination as well as the slaves when it comes to finding what we want and need as natural born Master/slaves and Dom/subs. I personally don't know why that would be a problem for a Dom/Sir, as i have always found men in their 40's - 60's the sexiest. There is something about the level of masculinity and sexual energy that exudes from the men in this age group. I have never found a young man, not matter how muscled, to be as sexy in leather as an older man is. Of course, I am a 110% bottom so that should not be a surprise. I think the problem is the same for our elder Masters that it is for the elder slaves, we aren't the young "Colt porno models" that seem to be the ideal that many aspire to have. I find that a bit dumb because- A. you are limiting yourself to a very narrow few. and B. because being that model has nothing to do with sexiness as far as I'm concerned. I have seem some gorgeous men that were hot and looked good, but the minute they opened their mouth it was all over. The arrogance and self absorbed that many are involved in when they have the "Colt Model" look makes them unattractive on all levels in my opinion. I have also seen some control freaks(man beaters) that looked good but are still unsexy when you realize this about them. Don't get me wrong. I am not talking about the kind that can go on in a good session with a Dom/Master. I'm talking about the kind that isolates you from society and controls so much about you that you are nothing but a mindless automaton. How would you be able to act on what your Dom/Master wants if you are so controlled that you can't anticipate what he wants or needs from you to be who he is? I am talking about the Dom/Master that is all about malice and evil when he is in a session or living his life. The ones that get into an argument with you over nothing and use it as an excuse to beat you and not in the good way. These are the kind of people that you read about in the papers that meet someone on the Internet and then kill them and nobody knows about it until months or years later. I am talking about the serial killers and the ones that are very close to it! I am talking about the kind of man that outside the bedroom you can't talk to them or anything. These are the kind i don't necessarily find sexy or attractive. However, many times these are the type that have been prevalent in the "Colt Model" looking Dom/Masters that i have met.
I personally have always liked men form 35/40 - 59/60 ish to be the sexiest men that I could be with. The 65yo that looks and acts younger is just as appealing to me as the 40yo :Colt Model" that you see in the leather bars standing around and posing. I have often wondered where this proverbial camera is that is out there taking their pictures when I see those types in the bar. An older Master/Dom has the experience and talent that a younger man doesn't have in training aspect and giving what a slave needs to be himself. They have been there and done that and know what will happen with the training methods they use and what woks best. They are usually more stable and grounded in what the leather community is and about. They know that it isn't a 24/7 porno movie. And when you are out of the Dom/sub mode you can talk to them and relate to them. Thus, increasing the bond between you and making you feel proud to be their property or boy. If you want to be a spiritless, unfeeling thing, then by all means find that total jerk "colt Model" master if you want. If it doesn't matter how you are treated, then it is a sad day for you as far as I'm concerned. I want a Master/SIR that i can work out with and do things with and have a good time with. I don't want one that will only be interested in me when he is ready to get off. If that were the case he would be better off investing in a good leather porno collection. I want a Master/SIR that i can go to when I have a concern, or something is happening where i work or in my family. These types of Masters are very hard to find and they are usually the older ones that exude that masculinity and sexual energy i was talking about earlier. The kind of Master/Dom you can look at and know that you will be safe and he is concerned about you emotionally as well as physically. Like i said I would think that since that is usually the kind you find in men in their 40's- their 60's ish, then there would not be as much dicrimination toward Masters/Dom's as there would be from Master/Doms. to the slave/subs. But from all indications it seems to be about the same. Well I have gone on long enough about this for NOW. Maybe in another entry. That being said, as usual, if you have any comment or are a Master that is interested in me, contact me at raven15@consolidated.net. Bye for now!

Oh The Vanity of it All!

I know that I have talked about this before but thought it needed to be mentioned again. Our society has become youth driven and looks orientated to the destruction of love and happiness in the world. I will explain what I mean. It seems that no matter the chat room, whether it is leather or not, the same thing prevails. Everyone is looking for a Colt model to be with and sometimes forget to look at themselves. Every Dom/Master that I have talked with is looking for a younger twink sub/slave. The problem with that, is that outside of the play time, there is a great clash of culture awareness. It doesn't matter if you are a slave or a Master the difference in cultural relativity will be apparent outside of the playroom/bedroom. The difference in relativiy of cultural figures and the significance of them is lost. As well as the importance of certain world events. The interest gap can be enormous. This can lead to little to talk outside of the bedroom. Making the relationship doomed from the start. If the Dom/Master is in a teaching and mentoring role that is great. However, it will depend on the sub/slave being receptive to that mentoring if it will work or not. Many Doms and subs are missing out by making an age difference as a criteria to whether or not to serve or be served by someone. From the many twink subs i have talked to, the reason for the age difference they require is about establishment. They want someone that is established and has material things already that they would like to have and use. Basicaly, most are looking for a Sugar Daddy/Master. They feel they are entitled to have what ever the Dom has and will use the Dom. This isn't the basis to have a relationship with anyone. We as human beiongs need love and emotional connection with the person that we are with. That is why a Natural born slave, such as myself, or a natural born Dom/Master will have a need to serve or be served and love the other person for being what they are. Many Masters/Doms wonder why they can't find a slave that will serve them for a long period, when what they are seeking is right there under their noses but is 35+ instead of 18+. The same can be said for slaves/subs. They will wonder why they can't find a Master/Dom to serve for a longterm when they don't look at the younger Master/Doms becuase they don't have allot of material things. In addition, they wonder why, when they run into Masters/Doms that want them to work and help with the financial end of a relationship. They feel they are entittled to be taken care of just for existing. I find this to be unrealistic and quite honestly a very bad lack of character. That brings me to my next wonder.
It amazes me the amount of people that are overweight and out of shape that are looking for the colt model and nothing else will do. They then wonder why they never can find anyone interested in them. i admit that I let myself go for awhile, but iam woprking out now and doing everything I can to be a sub/slave that a Master would be pround to have. I have and am losing weight and getting back into the gym shape I was in a few years ago.I do it for myself as well as to be more attractive. Usually a man that worksout, eats right, exercises and takes care of himself, wants someone that does the same. I find that when a man takes care of himself he is hot no matter what the age. I have seen some very hot and sexy 60yo Masters/Doms that I would have no ploblem serving. Yet, there are doms and subs that don't take care of themselves and think that a muscular man should be interested in them. Don't get me wrong. We all have our types that turn us on. I am not discounting the men out there that find big men sexy(chubby chasers). I think that is great if that is what turns you on. The Bears and muscled men I have talked with, whether they are doms/Masters or slaves/subs seem to want someone that is the same as they for a partner. It is amazing to me the amount of Dom/sub relationships that don't occur when both parties are in the same shape(alittle out of shape) and would match up in desires and wants from each other, but don't get together. Why? Because of vanity. They are either close in age or they are looking for the colt model that is rare in any instance. I myself would like to find a man that is in shape or working on it( not a Colt model, but would take one if he came along) and that we can workout together. Building a bond as well as a relationship while doing that and being on the journey to better health together.
Well enough with the soapbox. If you have any questions or comments feel free to send me a message. If you are a Master that is intersted in meeting, read the blog from the beginning to present to know more about me. Then contact me at Raven15@consolidated.net

Personal Entry

Well as i said in my last entry, the B.O.R. caused allot of conversation with the group of people I have contact with. I had one Master say that it didn't apply to a Master/slave relationship because it said Boy B.O.R. and not slave. He felt it was OK for a Sir/boy relationship. I have to disagree. It still puts the sub in total control and that isn't what a Dom/sub relationship is about. Well enough said about the B.O.R. We could debate it until the world ends.

Well it seems interesting to me, the Masters(though few) that have contacted me. They claim to have read the blog, yet they think i am supposed to make a life changing decision after 2 or 3 chats online. That tells me that they haven't read all of the entries. That is something that i encourage any Master/SIR to do . By reading all of them you have a sense of who I am and what I am about. I am a very caring and real person. When i make a commitment I do it 110%. I give it my all. I am very nostalgic as well and sentimental about things. I want a Master that is all man and not fem. I have to say that I find masc. men the most interesting. I like them to be around my age or older. I want a Master that is a natural Master and one that knows that is what he is. I am a natural born slave so I want the same in my Master. The also have to be based in reality and not think of it as a 24/7 porn flick. There is more than sex involved in the Master/slave relationship and a Master should understand that. I have been saving myself for the Master that will be my Master for a lifetime. I am not out having casual sex while I am on my search. I haven't been with a Man in several years so i am very much like a virgin in that aspect and am holding the next time I am with one to be with the Master that will own me forever. I know that the Master/slave relationship is special and I want the Master to know that he will be very special to me. Well with that being said, I leave you now and if you want to contact me for comments or if you are a Master and interested you can contact me at raven15@consolidate.net Have a great day!

Reflections: The last entry

Well it seems that my last entry caused quite a stir within the group that i talk to. There was allot of comments about the "Bill Of Rights" that has been circulating on the net. The one thing that all of the Masters and some slaves i have talked to, say, is that the B.O.R. is malarky. I agree. The way it is written the Master doesn't have control the slave does.That makes the slave the Dom and the Master the sub which is a great misnomer in and amoung itself. The whole point of being a slave is because you are naturally made to submit to another and give over that control. The B.O.R. doesn't do that. The slave basically doesn't submit to anyone. But the Master submits to the wishes of the slave and is limited in his role as Master. So much so, that the whole Dom/sub Master/slave relationship doesn't exist as it was designed to. If one was to go by this boy Bill Of Rights there is no exchange of obiedience, love, or need for domination and need for being dominated that makes a Master a Master and a slave a slave. The relationship becomes Moot. i know there are some Masters that want a top slave and are a bottom Master, but that doesn't mean the right of control is reversed. That just means the dynamic is different, but the Master is still in control. It is that control that makes him a Master. It seems almost that the B.O.R. was written by a Master that wanted to be a sub but not take the responsibility that is involved with being one. Or perhaps, it was written by someone not ready to accept his role and what he truly was which is a slave. The thought fo submission was there but the acceptence of what that meant was not there. Of course there wouldn't even be a need for a B.O.R. if every one was sticking to the Old Gaurd ways.
The Old Gaurd was were about character, honor, responsibility, Love and values. From the O.G. Masters i have talked with, the O.G. was a way of self governing with in the leather community. A slave didn'thave to worry about being abused because if a Master crossed that line, the other Masters would talk with him about it. If that didn't work then they would take action to rescue the slave and punish the offending Master so that he better understood his responsibilityand what it meant to be a Master. There was more of a collective pride in being a Master or slave. If either one did something disgraceful, it was a reflection on entire community, not just the individual. A Master that dishonored another Master or slave dishonored and disgraced all the Masters in the community. He disgraced and disrespected the institution of what it meant to be a Master. The same goes for a slave. They disrspect the institution of what it means to be a slave. The are no set rules for the O.G ways. They aren't written down. But it comes down to having values about yourself respect, your character, and honor to the leather community. Some might say it is about what it meant to be a man in the 50's or 60's. His name was something that you kept in the honorable position of respect from others. And the value of that respect was utmost important. If you valued that then you valued your reflection on being a slave or a Master. Well that being said, if any Masters or slaves have anything to add about the Old Gaurd ways , please feel free to contact me at raven15@consolidated.net or if you are a Master interested in talking you can contact me there as well. i appreciate all comments about the blog. Have a great Day

The Bill Of Rights for both Master and Slave?

It has come to my attention that there is a Boy Bill Of Rights circulating that has been the cause of great debate and discussion. I have heard from several Masters about their concerns and problems with this B.O.R. and what it means.
I will attempt to show the flaws in it and let the readers know that it takes a lot of thought before becoming a Master or slave. I will list the Bill Of Rights as i have been shown and then go through them one by one and give my thoughts on them. I will then hope to construct a Bill Of Rights that would be in agreement with Masters and slaves. In addition I will try to also come up with a Bill Of Rights for a Master. After all a Master has the right to certain expectations as much as a slave. The purpose of a Bill Of Rights for both the Master and slave is to protect each from maleficence and use and abuse. There are many unscrupulous slaves and Masters out there and one should be aware of that.
Here is the Boy Bill Of rights as i have found them to be.

Boy Bill Of Rights

1.Every boy has the right to have his body, intellect, and emotions protected by his Dom.

2. The boy has the right to choose who he serves and stop serving without being subjected to physical, mental, or emotional abuse.

3.Every Boy has a right to be cared for, disciplined appropriately, and allowed to feel pride in his submission.

4. Every boy has the right to protected sex.

5. Every Boy has the right to privacy

6.Every boy has the right to defend himself from physical, emotional and sexual abuse.

7. Every boy has the right to consent or not consent to sexual activities.

8. Every boy has the right to seek refuge, counsel, and advice from other Dom/subs without expectation of sex, Money, or other services in return.

9. Every boy has the right to a physical and emotional set of friends.

10. Every boy has the right to protect his own possessions and finances against intercession, theft, and non-consensual acquisition.

As you can see, this B.O.R. is worded vaguely and with allot of room for interpretation. This makes it an unrealistic set of rights. There is also no Master Bill Of Rights that I am aware of.

Now lets look at these rights individually.

Right 1 is good but doesn't go into it in detail as it should. The boy has that right of protection for submission and obedience to the Master. It isn' automatically given but is earned. It also isn't something that is in place until a Master and slave have entered into the verbal agreement or contract that establishes the basis for the relationship. It is a starting point that changes as the love and bond between the two grows.

Right 2 is true but only to a certain extent. A slave can't just up and leave with fulfilling his verbal or contractual obligation. This goes to the character, honor, and respectability of the slave as such. If a slave promises to serve for a year verbally or in a contract, then he is obligated to honor that contract. If he terminates the service early, he should have to figure his average monthly expense to the Master and pay off the remainder of his agreement. This is not to indicate that the Master is money hungry, but rather that it recognizes the Master has put in time, money, emotions, expense, and effort into training and making the slave what he is. It should be an honor to pay off the agreement because it shows that the slave is an respected and honorable Man and should be given that respect.

Right 3 is not in depth enough to stand as it is. The sub has those rights, but only for the cost of his love, devotion, submission, and obedience to the Dom. I personally would want a Dom that would let me to continue to work out so that he would be proud of me physically as well as for the service given. The only way that it can happen is for this exchange to take place. A sub/slave should know that part of that right is based on being able to contribute to his upkeep and expense. Only in a 24/7 situation where the Master/Dom is financially able to have a slave that doesn't work would it only constitute the obedience, devotion, love, and submission to the Dom. Then there is more responsibility on the part of the Dom. A slave can never be a mooch!

Right 4 is something that should be discussed prior to entering in the relationship. Protected sex can mean different things in different situation. If a Dom and sub are both neg. for STDsthen having bare back sex should be discussed. When it comes to the Dom sharing is slave property then there is a whole different set of indications. To some, that means the Dom would require the borrowing Dom to use condoms and make sure they were used on anyone engaging in sex with the property. Unless a Master/dom has recent testing and documentation of the other Dom and anyone who uses his property, then it should be noted that a boy has the right not to be infected with any STD. Especially one that can kill him. and the boy should have the right to go after the borrowing Dom civilly if the legal action is appropriate. In some states not telling a person of their HIV status or lying about it is a criminal and civil offense.

Right 5 is uncondusiveto developing the trust and bond necessary for a Dom/sub relationship to work. I think a boy has a right toprivacy when cleaning himself or taking care of daily needs that are a part of life. However this right doesn't allow for a relationship of trust to develop. maybe in the future a slave will be given more privacy by his Dom but that is up to the Dom to decide. in this day and age of computer technology, I wouldn't object to a Master/Dom having a program installed on the computer the slave uses to track where and what he is doing on the computer. After all, it goes to the safety of both the Dom and the sub. think about it. If a sub goes off to meet another Dom and his Dom doesn't know about it and the slave is killed or disfigured, things can get ugly for the Dom that everyone knows the sub is with. That of course depends on how the Dom/sub relationship is perceived by the real world. The Dom can't protect himself from STDs or any other problem that may arise with out knowing everything about his slave and property and what they are doing.

Right 6 is pretty much self explanatory but needs to define it further. In a Dom/sub relationship there is going to be pain and punishment and discipline. That kind of "abuse" should be expected by any sub that enters into a Dom/sub relationship. It is a part of training to be the slave that the sub wants to be and achieve. But the boy should also have the right not to be disfigured, permanently damaged or scared. This is a right, I think to protect against situations like being cut so deep that muscles or tendons are severed and the loss of use of a limb is involved. Or perhaps, but fire to a slave and disfiguring him. I am talking about malice involved in the act of using a sub. I personally would not object to being tattooed to show ownership and if a slave agrees to it, branding.

Right 7 is a bit tricky. I mean a sub should know that he is expected to have sexual relations with his Dom. It is those sexual relationships that help build a bond and cement the relationship and trust. I do think however, that when a slave is shared it should be discussed prior to the event. It goes to the protection of both the slave and the Dom. It is also something that should be discussed before entering into the relations to begin with. I personally feel that I don't have the right to dictate to a Dom whether or not I have sex with him. It should be there for the taking or pleasure of the Dom. After all, denying sex to a Dom is denying your purpose in being a slave as far as I'm concerned.

Right 8 pretty much means that a sub has the right to get advice from anyone. The refuge part would be when an OG Master sees a sub being abused-go back to the definition- and will harbor a slave an protect him while they get their self together to move on in life. Let's face it there are quite a few" Masters/Doms" that only want to hurt someone for the sake of hurting and not for what a Dom/sub relationship is supposed to be about. It is then that a slave should be able to protect themselves by asking another Dom for refuge if the other Dom sees that it would be appropriate and is given to the slave/sub.

Right 9 is vague at the very least and requires some clarification. If you mean the physical right to be in contact with fellow slaves, Doms, and family, then yes that is a right of a boy. He should never become so isolated-after training- that he can't call family or friends just to talk or find out what is going on. That is provided the sub is still in contact with his family and hasn't chosen to close all ties with them. But a boy does not have the right to have sex with anyone he chooses, whenever he wants or have f**kbuddies outside the relationship. If a slave is part of a multi sub household then sexual contact will be dictated by the Dom.

Right 10 is more about financial protection than anything else i believe. I see nothing wrong with a Dom having control over a subs finances. It is the way that control is administered should be discussed before the relationship begins. There are as i said unscrupulous Doms-as as slaves-out there that will try to steal from a slave or Dom. I can see where there might be accounts with both the slave and Doms name on the account. just make sure that they are set up with the slave and/or Dom signature on it. That way should anything happen to either on , the surviving member has access to the money to take care of expenses and such. If the only use of "and" and not "and/or" then the money can be tied up for months or years until the estate is settled. This is the situation where I can see some protection is needed for both parties involved. If it is a 24/7 situation where the sub doesn't work or contribute to his social security or retirement fund then arrangements must be made for the event of death etc.... so that the sub can take care of the Dom if he is disabled or funeral or be able to move on with his life should the unlikely happen. This is the only reason I can see for this right to exist and given.

I have intentionally stated "as Given" or "Given to" in the discussion for a reason. Basically there are two things that can be said about a slave/boys "Rights". A boy ONLY HAS THE RIGHTS/Responsibility that are GIVEN to him by his Dom and that are thoroughly discussed and agreed upon in all areas-physically, emotionally, and financially- BEFORE EVER ENTERING into the relationship to begin with.

By the same Token a Master/Dom ONLY HAS the RIGHTS/Responsibility of submission Given to him in all areas-physically, emotionally, and financially-that have been thoroughly discussed and agreed upon BEFORE taking possession of a sub.

Any Dom/sub that only gives certain areas of responsibility to the other shows a lack of character and an understanding of what it means to be a true Dom/sub as far as i am concerned.

Responsibly can be made to mean obligation. That is why the Dom/sub relationship dynamic is a special one. It is far more about being in a mutual symbiotic relationship then the outside world realizes.

That being said, if anyone has any comments or are a Master looking for a slave feel free to contact me at Raven15@consolidated.net. Always a pleasure hearing from you.